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Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Exposing Bigfoot Habituators


Bigfoot habituators are people who claim to have an established relationship with Bigfoots. From their experiences, some habituators have even written detailed information about the behaviors and mindset of these creatures. Skeptics looking for proof of on-going experiences of these habituators and Bigfoots often ask for some kind photographic proof. Disappointingly, most of the photographs have turned out to be ordinary "blobsquatches".

In the video below, SnowWalkerPrime talks about the so-called Bigfoot "habituators" and what they can learn from true habituators like Dr. Jane Goodall.



Blogger Robert Lindsay also has an article from April 2011, detailing several accounts of Bigfoot "habituators":

The Bigfoot “Habituators”

There is much talk in the Bigfoot biz about “habituators.” These are people, often women, who have supposedly developed a relationship with the Sasquatches around them. There was one in Tennessee and another, Janice Carter Coy, in Kentucky. Coy is apparently mentally ill. I believe she may have schizophrenia. I am certain that she believes she has been dealing with a family of Bigfoots on her farm all of these years.

Coy is the subject of a book by the gullible or worse Mary Green, Fifty Years With Bigfoot, detailing Janice’s life with the animals from the time she was a little girl to present. It details every conceivable aspect of Bigfoot life you could imagine, and even gives a list of the vocabulary of their language. Coy won’t let others come to the farm, because the Bigfoots only like her, and disappear when anyone else shows up.

LOL.

Coy also says that Bigfoot hates having his picture taken, hence no photos or any other evidence.

LOL.

Investigators have been to the Coy farm in Kentucky. It’s open country for miles around with a town nearby. There are no Bigfoots there, and there have never been any Bigfoots on that farm.

Unfortunately, serious researchers have been conned by Coy and some believe her story. This is another problem. There are many scientific minded folks working in the field, but they have not uncommonly been conned by the tidal wave of hoaxers. This degrades their credibility.

Some fool researcher from Russia moved into the farm and said he saw Bigfoot signs over a month. He saw no such thing.

Erickson bought the property and researchers promptly moved into the Coy home. Suddenly all the Bigfoots done disappeared!

Coy received a nice tidy sum for her farm and she bought a new place 80 miles away. Very soon after, Fox the Bigfoot and his family done showed up at her new place, and they haven’t left yet.

LOL!

You can see where this shit is headed.

There was a similar case in Tennessee of a family that had supposedly habituated Bigfoots. Like Coy’s family, these Bigfoots also having the picture taken, hence no photos. The family put out pancakes every night for the Bigfoots (LOL) and the Bigfoots done eat them up come mornin. This family also hated researchers.

Erickson also bought this property and some adjacent properties too. They moved some researchers into the house but the Bigfoots only liked the Pancake People so they up and took off.

The Pancake People up and moved over to the next holler or so and what do you know? The Bigfoots promptly followed them over to the new place to get some more of those great pancakes!

LOL.

Maybe hillbillies are not so dumb after all. They seem to be making fools out of these city slickers.

There was another habituation case out of Florida. It was written up in a recent ridiculous book called Enoch. A guy in Florida “lives off the grid.” This is becoming increasingly popular. These folks live in tents or campers or whatever out in the woods, often on national forests. It’s called free. But you’re “off the grid,” as in no electricity.

Anyway, there’s this homeless guy in the swamps/woods of Florida named Mike. He’s befriended a Bigfoot named Enoch. He and Enoch hang out a lot and share lots of good times and whatnot. He communicated to the fool author of the book though an endless series of email messages. We does not allow visitors and he won’t talk on the phone. She’s never met the guy. Like the Bigfoots above, Enoch is camera shy, so wa-la, no evidence.

The author is Autumn Williams, a “top Bigfoot researcher for 20 years” (LOL). Autumn grew up in a cabin in very remote woods with her mom, Sali Sheppard Williams. Williams is the author of a book about her habituation with a group of Bigfoots in Orting, Washington, Valley of the Skookum.

All sorts of funny business happened while the Bigfoots were out and about.

An Indian spirit guide showed up, UFO’s made regular appearances, weird orb lights appeared in the woods and over rivers, a mystical being called Dream Walker shows up from time to time, shape-shifting critters appear and disappear in the woods, both mother and daughter experience dreams at the same time of the same Indian spirit guide who guides them through past and present, physic vampires and energy drains are around and they can tire you out real quick, the Men in Black show up as usual, phantom trains appear in the woods only to vanish.

Extradimensional blue herons do their weird thang. She regresses and re-experiences some of her past lives as a reincarnated being. She experiences various forms of ESP such as premonition, telepathy, mind manipulation and psychometry. She encounters weird energy “vortexes” and gets spiritually linked to folks she has never met before.

Bottom line, few if any modern Bigfoot habituator stories are credible. It’s unfortunate that these occurrences are so highly regarded in the Bigfoot community, but that community is swarming with idiots, fools, assholes, crazies of every shape and variety, kooks, whackjobs, liars, frauds, hoaxsters, con artists and flakes that it all makes sense.

I think there have been habituators in past. The Albert Ostman tale from 1924 is credible (more on that later). American Indians from many tribes say that Bigfoot used to steal their women. Sometimes the women came back after living years with the Bigfoots. In some cases, the women even bred with the Bigfoots. I regard all these stories as credible, but more on that later.

[via robertlindsay.wordpress.com]

76 comments:

  1. I like this guy,he understands the reality of the Bigfoot situation and truly understand the idea of burden of proof.

    Kudos Snowwalker

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    1. Careful who you latch onto Nick.
      You can agree with what he says here. But he's got allot of problems of his own. And he's actually misstating some of his facts here.

      However,
      You and I agree that there needs to be real evidence for really big claims

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    2. JB, Why don't you elaborate on the facts you feel are misstated, instead of this childish finger-pointing, that quite frankly, appears to be purposely left vague so others will jump to worst-case conclusions?

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    3. OK... "Mr Anonymous I'm scared to post under my own name."

      Others and I have elaborated in posts below.

      And if you follow this blog at all. You have to know, that I need to do nothing at all, for others to jump to worst case conclusions.
      Again, they have and will do that all on their own.

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    4. Please see my response below, as I apparently clicked the wrong Reply button. Also, correct my "state" to "misstate". Thank you.

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    5. Bigfoot Habituators have evidence of behavior:

      Habituators behave therefore:

      Bigfoot is evidence!

      Follow... LOL

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  2. There is one of these lunatics on the BFF she claims that she sees UFO's and intelligent plasma orbs and that a family of Bigfoot live nearby (and that they smoke and wear hats, no I am not making this up). When asked for evidence she throws a hissy fit and reports posts and they molly coddle her over it. If they had any guts they'd kick her lyin butt to the curb. Or get her some mental help.

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    1. Mustache Rides,- I heard an interview with Randy Brisson a while back in which he claimed he saw an adolescent sasquatch wearing a hat! I'm aware many in the community view Brisson as a hoaxer (his 'bigfoot head behind the stump photo' seems to not be well regarded and he has been accused of faking rock throwing), but he described the aforementioned hat as being made from intertwined sticks- like a bird's nest. This seems not completely implausible. The idea of these things smoking does make me laugh though! Tim, U.K.

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    2. If the bigfoots aren't smoking something, then someone else sure is...........

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  3. This is real talk.

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  4. The proof may be in the DNA ?

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  5. We at TFJBF want to that SWP for another great clip. And commend you on your pursuit of truth, logic, and the American way.
    Just to let you know. As president of TFJBF I am informing you that your hat is authorized apparel for TFJBF members only and you are infringing on said copyrighted apparel..The #1 BF trackers in the galaxy over and out

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  6. Everyone knows the zebras that pink gorillas ride don't have polka dots. They have rainbow STRIPES. DUH!!!!!

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  7. OK..

    1. The Carter Farm where Janice used to live is in TENNESSEE.
    2. Mary Green is not gullible, and hair samples she collected from the from the farm were scooped up by other researchers (Erickson)
    3. This idiot has all his facts WRONG and is confusing the Carter farm in TENNESSEE with the "PANCAKE" footage and habitation in KENTUCKY.
    4. Lindsay as usual has it ALL WRONG, IDIOT!
    5. So who looks like a fool?? Robert Lindsay!
    6. WHO has SHIT all over them Robert Lindsay....

    Shawn, you screwed the pooch on this one!!!!

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    1. Oh good Lord, the even if he did get the location wrong, he is right that Janice is a certified loon. If you believe that bs about "fox" then you are a loon also. What a bunch of crap and Carter made a fool out of herself on that National Geographic special. Fox asked for minced garlic.... What a load of bs. I can't figure out if people are out and out lying or just plain CRAZY!!!

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    2. http://www.prairieghosts.com/carter_farm.html

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  8. Thanks for Lindsay's article above, Shaun. It helps explain to me why Sali seemed a little unable to track or keep her own story straight in an interview I heard.

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  9. It's obvious where V00D00SIXXX went wrong with his overnight research camp-out. He cooked Spam and onions instead of pancakes.

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  10. Finally! SOMEONE who calls the BS what it is! Enoch is SUCH a pack of lies I cringe whenever its mentioned! Its about time the someone tells it like it is!

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  11. I have a special relationship with several Bigfoots here in Kenwood, CA. They trust me, but are very leery of people. When skeptics ask why no one has solid proof of this creature's existence I can tell you with certainty that it's because Bigfoots are born with an instinct to hide from humans. My Bigfoots friends are much shorter than the reports of 7 or even 9 foot tall Sasquatch. My friends are only 5' 5" and 5'7". Reports of giant Bigfoots are just hyperbole. My friends are grown adult sasquatch and they are shorter than I am. Bigfoots are afraid of people because people are much larger -- and much meaner -- than your average Bigfoot. also: I have proodf of all this, and not crackpot proof: real photos and video which is indisputable,

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    1. Where can we see your
      indisputable" evidence?

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    2. I have a special relationship with 2 bigfeet also..And they are very uncomfortable in shoes

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    3. You may come to my house to see the evidence (I live in Santa Rosa, CA). I will also introduce you to my friends if you pass a quiz of 20 simple questions about tolerance. This is not a joke and I am not a crackpot.

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    4. So you would expect a person to fly 3000 miles,take a test and then hope to be granted an audience? We already KNOW how that would end! "Oh Im sorry your not tolerant enough, or pure of heart and mind enough to be taken into the presence of the bigfoot." If your not willing to SHARE publicly the DON'T publicly claim to have evidence!

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    5. You sure sound like a crackpot to me.
      Did your "friends" give you the questions for your quiz?

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    6. LOL nice troll post, I laughed +1

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    7. So.... whats the quiz and how do we meet up?? I live in Healdsburg, right down the road from Kenwood.

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    8. Once you pass the quiz ( the knights that say neat) will say you need to bring them a shrubery will tell..I hope someone picks up on the reference

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    9. Anonymous, I live in the central valley in Ca. I would love to come and meet you and see what your seeing. I've had three encounters in different areas, so they must like me, right! I might take your test, but i would like to see it posted here first, before I waste a drive you see. I would drive just to see the vid and photo for my own personal reasons. I don't have a site or really any other reason, except I'm driven to know more, I already know alot.
      You should realize that the reports with really good size indicaters such as widows, barn doors, tree limbs and measurable stride puts many of these creatures at WELL above human size. Something I would like to understand. I dont think we are dealing with the exact same animals. I know that the scream a buddy and i took was not produced by a creature with anything near human size lungs, impossible. Let me help you figure this out.
      If you walk me out in Thier woods, twice in the same day, It would really be thier choice to meet me, wouldn't it!

      No guns, no camaras, just a walk in the woods, tell me what you know and have seen.
      If you want to learn a little about the idea of at least two species, at least in Cali, Look up the meaning of Yosimite, as in the park.
      Why do you say, or think there can't be bigger ones? How old do you think they are. Any grey on thier hair? Are they Irish setter colored red, or brown/black?
      If your not bluffing, here is your chance? Leon

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    10. I will entertain any and all of you. You can take my tolerance test together, if there are more than one of you. How do I make arrangements for this? How can I get you my address?

      To the person who asked what color: they are both black with brownish red hair on the top of their head. Their eyes are vet human-like but bigger irises and pupils. They don't have a spoken language, but the do have complicated postures and hand gestures.

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    11. I will not post evidence on line. I've read comments from people on this very site stating the would exploit, or even kill a Bigfoot, for money or fame. If you pass my test I will introduce you to the two that regularly come down the mountain, although there are a few more uphill, and maybe many, I don't know for certain.

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    12. Like I said, I live in Healdsburg and am in Santa Rosa everyday. If your serious? because I am =) u can contact me, send me your test, etc. I never really expected sas to be in this area ? very exciting if so =) My email is Itmryan@aol.com would be very interested to hear from you and further our conversation from there, as well as take your tolerance test.

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    13. e-mail addy, aintell5@yahoo.com look forward to viewing your test, ty sir. sincerely, james

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  12. I think the habituation process for now offers the best way to study Bigfoot culture. You just are not going to be able to chase down a group that is a Ninja in the forest. I really feel the best way to accomplish this would be with women that are like Goodall and Fossey for all the obvious reasons.

    Chuck

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    1. I agree Chuck. A good book on habituation is "Nature's Secret Agent's" by Tom Burnette who lives in western NC and has had this goin on for over 10 yrs.(also on you tube) or "Visit's From The Forest People" by Jill Scott. Two Great reads w/ Pics too

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  13. I agree that these people sound mentally unstable, but the author of this story sound just as mentally unstable. As far as, "off the grid" I have my home set up to be off the grid whenever I need to be.

    I can power my entire home when we have a power outage. I have phone, satellite internet, television, running water, heat etc. when the power is out (which is quite often the case in the woods of southern West Virginia) I am not homeless; on the contrary, it cost a substantial amount of money to ensure that I could thrive "off the grid" when needed.

    The subject matter of this article sounds accurate, however; most people would snub their nose to it's content for the very same reasons they snub their noses toward gossip columns. You have to sort through all of the nonsense and hogwash to try to figure out what is fact and what is biased name calling and opinion.
    Archer1

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  14. If I were that big-ass chimp, I'd knock Goodall over and plant my root between her stems.....nice short shot.

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    1. LOL! I was thinking the same thing!

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  15. I agree,habituators are a very good source for access to Squatches. But the very nature of the people that live in the often remote locations where these beings live, is also an attraction to people that self isolate for mental illness reasons. I'm not knocking these people, I understand them and was raised in such a community/family in those remote places. That being said, we never saw or heard anything remotely squatch like. It took many more years before I was exposed to the truth of sasquatch existence. We often discount "crazy people" and ignore everything they say, which is a mistake. Even if a person is schizophrenic, doesn't mean they aren't telling the truth. Like any habituators, it can be a dangerous thing to be involved in. A few years ago, some of my lifelong friends had a nieghbor that was feeding black bears off her back porch through a heavy fence that was wrapped around the posts of the porch. She felt safe in doing so for years, right up until a big boar bear grabbed her hand and drug her through the fencing and made a meal of her. They estimated she was feeding up ro 40+ bears and it took months to relocate most of them and some had to be killed. Having seen squatches and witnessed their strength, I can't imagine a similar situation going bad with intelligence and brute strength. As far as photographing a squatch from habituation, I'm sure they wouldn't like it. Photographing a chimp that doesn't understand intent, doesn't have language and likely therefore no oral history passed between generations, is one thing, photographing a man in the amazon with complex intelligence is likely to be completely different. Just some thoughts on this.

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  16. Hey SWP-Good news!!! My Bigfoot buddy just ASSURED me he will telepathically mind link with you!!! It will be at a date and time of HIS choosing, so you will have to remain awake for possilbly a few days. NO BS!!! If you have trouble staying awake I find that meth helps ALOT! After a few days awake and tweaking you will be blessed with the TRUTH (like me!!)

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  17. Janice Carter lived in Tennesee as did Mary Green. I think you got alot of your facts screwed up.

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    1. Yes it is in Tennesee. Janice Carter also claimed her Bigfoot buddy spoke to her with a special language. Which she made the mistake of writing down. When I saw the language I immediately recognized it as Lakota. A Souixian dialect. She had copied the words from a indian language dictionary. She became enamored with the language after watching Dances with Wolves numerous times. Mary found this out.
      If you check, you'll find that Mary Green and Janice Carter had a falling out when Mary realized how badly Janice had been lying to her. It was Mary who realized after the book came out that all of the people on the farms surrounding the Carter farm, had never had any kind of activity. An article appeared in the local paper making fun of the book.
      I'm not a Robert Lindsay fan but he's correct in saying that the farm is surrounded by open fields for miles. There is no place for Sasquatch to hide. You can check this yourself on Google Earth.
      I do think that if a habituation opportunity exists, it would be the best way to study Sasquatch. But I think the famous habituations are mostly myth.

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  18. Did Sally Ramey live with Janice Carter?

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  19. Love this blog, but there is a line that should'nt be crossed and thats anything to do with Robert Lindsay.

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  20. Anyone who says LOL when writing an article is an idiot.

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  21. SWP is dead right about one thing he mentions, the only reason that Goodall and Fosey were able to break the ground that they did is because they had PHD's and took other people with the same credits to verify their claims. Many of the habituators are simply not equipt, accredited OR FUNDED as these two wonderful scientists were. It does not mean that they are all mentally ill. It simply means that they will never be allowed to share their info (sound or not) within the scientific community and unfortunately, will likely not be taken seriously by the general public... we only allow proffesionals to make such groundbreaking statements.
    Reason #2 (of 5) why I search the Internet for Sasquatch instead of the forest: I am neither an anthropologist nor a wildlife biologist, so where would my findings be useful? On the Internet, only... and there is plenty of that already.
    David from the PAC/NW

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    1. neither had their degrees when they started their field work though. They got them after working with the animals for years.

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    2. also, Dr. Leakey was funded for six months and had pull, so when the telegram went out, on observation alone, that chimps use "tools" to collect termites it was almost"accepted" enough to get another round of funding. Famous names disputed her claims for some time, until well documented.

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    3. Both good points. I guess I was speaking generally about the overall outcome. They both had definite obstacles to overcome to get where they ended up... not to mention being women in a gender-centric field.
      David from the PAC/NW

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    4. Ya, but it was actually solved by people who had not been through the Jaded treadmill of acadamia, who claim they know best. It was just passionate people who got out and did the work.

      Snowball Primerib, in the very statements you made about those women, is the reason you should cut some of these people some slack. Fasano--- I've bagged on him hard for the numerous pointless videos, but the guy does get out there. It would be an ironic stick in eye if He found a body. i commend him for trying to straiten out and I thought it was cool for Damien to give the guy a shot.

      Fasano, it was a good vid you made, but you got to pull back, the exageration is what gets you in trouble. It wasn't class A cause it wasn't clear. But i think it's good to work with a partner. Convrsation is better the rambling.

      At some point, the fact the we can't get evidence, is going to mount up in in your head and it will dawn on you----------------- Something strange is going on here?
      Something stranger than walking bears and giant bunnies. And maybe that these creatures, some of them, can do some wierd sh-t!!!!

      I love for you to do a vid on the indian legends / myths if you will. Do the work, collect the info and give us a good presintation. I'd rather just see you do the vid and keep it off the podcast. As I mentioned above, check out the word Yosimite, it's been around along time?

      The lack of evidense, is evidense of somthing!

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  22. Hey anon. I too live in santa rosa ca. Well, actually Healdsburg at the moment. would love to take your test and see these bigfoot! How bout it?!

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  23. My name would mean nothing to you, so I made one up just so you'll be happy. BTW, how do I know you are really John Bamburg?

    1. Work on your reading skills. There are TWO stories above -- a video from SnowWalkerPrime and an old blog post by Robert Lindsay.

    2. See you side-stepped your junior high gossip mongering again. What exactly are SWP's "allot of problems of his own" and what facts did SWP state?

    Regards, George

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    1. I think Bamburg may be referring to Lindsay.

      Though, I may be wrong...

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    2. I was referring to Linsay earlier. but to continue any conversation on this lame topic is ludicrous.

      We really can't be comparing Goodall and Fosse to these lost souls that claim Bigfoot habituation...are we?
      Real scientists who produced real ongoing evidence?

      these "habituaters" are little more than the Bigfoot community's counterpart of "spirit channelers"

      I'm done with this one.
      And yes, my real name is John Bamburg

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    3. Well John your thinking is the same kind of thinking that was going on back in Goodalls day. When she first started out she wasn't a PHD and nobody took her seriously either until after she got her degree. That is why the whole community is so jacked up because people cut each others throats if they don't have some kind of title in front of their name. I said it before and I'll say it again even someone with a PHD can still be an asshole looking out for their own personal gains. Kavorkian was a Dr and look how nice a guy he was helping all those people...

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  24. Yeah, like that woman who lives in Tennessee who was on one of the programs about bigfoot on the National Geographic Channel a few years ago. She claims that a clan of sasquatches live near her property and that the clan's alpha male comes to her door and asks for garlic.

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  25. Not all people claiming long term interaction with BF claim telepathy, UFOs, or other-worldly events associated with. Some just happen upon it. Anyone read "Impossible Visits" by Christopher Noel? Good account of some people who wanted the interaction, some who didn't. And some good info on photographic "evidence".

    Anyway, just some thoughts. Not all claiming "habituation" or "long term witness" are crazy. Alot are. But not all.

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    1. Impossible Visits is one of the best books on the subject out there and Christopher Noel is about as credible as they come.

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  26. You don't like Anons, and I don't like cowards that run and won't defend or apologize for their mistaken comments. Let's review, JB:

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    I like this guy, he understands the reality of the Bigfoot situation and truly understand the idea of burden of proof. Kudos Snowwalker

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    Careful who you latch onto Nick. You can agree with what he says here. But he's got allot of problems of his own. And he's actually misstating some of his facts here. However, You and I agree that there needs to be real evidence for really big claims
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    That's all I was looking for, and what you erred in making crystal clear from the start, JB, because you replied to a Comment about SnowWalkerPrime. So you were referring to Robert Lindsay, and not SnowWalkerPrime? Is that correct?

    Thanks, GH

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  27. I'm always amused to read Lindsay's blog because he has such an interesting mix of true statements and false ones. In the end, he always ends up about 30 percent correct, on those columns about situations with which I am familiar. If a real journalist had that severe of a fact-checking problem, they wouldn't keep their job. There are some doosies in this one.

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  28. Interesting that this blog would choose to highlight opinions from two people who have never investigated a habituation in their lives. Just sayin'...

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  29. As a victim of sexual harrassment from a Sasquatch I can tell you that habituation has serious consequences. These animals are not dumb simple beings hiding from humans like we are led to believe. Instead they are cunning eye-raping stalkers watching you from behind the trees. I cry every time those Jack-Links commercials come on.

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    1. They took my girlfriend in the woods she beat it in the head with a bottle and it let her ass go a beating was not worth a good fuck...

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  30. Show us your evidence that habituators are lying about their experiences. Other than the facts on Goodall and Fosey, the rest is just another skeptic's opinion.

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    1. He can't show you that people are lying about seeing Santa Claus either. Your argument is what we refer to as "not even wrong".

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    2. What argument? I made a statement for him to show us his evidence that they are lying. Asking for evidence can go both ways.

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    3. No of doesn't go both ways. Burden of proof lies with the idiots making such outlandish claims. These habituators are nuttier than squirrel turds. They need to feel important, so they make up these crazy ass stories to get attention and NEVER EVER EVER have PROOF. Why people give them the time of day is also crazy too.

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  31. "...idiots, fools, assholes, crazies of every shape and variety, kooks, whackjobs, liars, frauds, hoaxsters, con artists and flakes..." Wow! He just used every name that HE embodies. Pretty good. Autumn Williams is infinitely more credible than Mr. Lindsay and a MUCH better writer. At least she can spell, which is more than I can say for this idiot, Robert Lindsay. But, more on that later.

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  32. Love that book! Chris is a credit to the field

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  33. I had one watch me fuck my girlfriend by my window at night and he beat his meat outside, I was scared because his dick was so big thought he might try to fuck me..

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  34. Anyone who claim that sasquatch use telepathy,travel through dimensions,send brainwaves to shut down an automobile,fly in UFO's etc. well,that is where I say BS with a capital B! Kooks the lot of them! Carter,Williams and all of the habituators,including the guy known as Smiter...all kooks.

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